Through the powers of the internet, I had the great pleasure of interviewing Gracie and Abbey of Good Mourning, Nancy Podcast. A bi-weekly podcast that has just begun its 8th season, Gracie and Abbey are feminist horror fans who cover a wide range of horror movies, having some fun discussions yet they aren’t afraid to call out a movie’s cringe-worthy moments.
So lets get some coffee and have some fun.
You always mention having a nice cup of coffee during your discussions, so how do you take your coffee?
Gracie: Black as midnight on a moonless night!
Abbey: I take my coffee black or with a little bit of cream. I’m too old for dark roasts now, so I stick to the medium roasts.
If someone has never listened to your podcast, which episodes would you recommend them to start with?
G: I think our episode on The VVitch is pretty good. I also have a soft spot for our Frankenhooker, Hereditary, and Peeping Tom episodes.
A: I always tell new listeners to start with The VVitch or Get Out– they’re newer horror films but they really get to the heart of what the podcast has been about from the start.
Frankenhooker, Misery, Beetlejuice, and Frankenstein and Bride Of Frankenstein are a few of my favorite episodes.
Has the idea ever come up of going back and revisiting movies you’ve covered earlier on in the podcast and “updating” episodes with your thoughts that might have changed on certain subjects?
G: Oh hell yes! I can’t listen to our older episodes at all. I cringe so hard because we had no idea what we were doing at the beginning. Now that we have a better grasp on our show and we have become more knowledgeable, I would like to “redo” a few of those episodes.
A: I think about that all the time! Mostly when I come across new articles or ideas about the films, or if I rewatch it and catch little details that I’ve missed during previous viewings. But I think some of the movies can have different applications as far as what’s happening culturally or socially, and I’m like, “AH DANG, that would have been awesome to talk about for that past episode!”
If you could go back in time and see the original theatrical run of any movie, which would you pick? The Exorcist? Psycho?
G: I love this question! Between The Exorcist and Psycho I’d pick The Exorcist but if I was going to pick any horror movie I’d pick House on Haunted Hill (1959)! I want to see that skeleton fly over the audience!
A: Probably The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or John Carpenter’s The Thing. Both were kind of genre-shaping for future generations, so to see a movement like that take place in horror, (especially for the special effects) would have been incredible!
Who are some female-characters in horror movies you feel don’t get the credit they deserve or just get often overlooked in discussions, Final Girls or not.
G: Lex Woods from Alien Vs Predator does not get as much hype as she should. She is so cool! I remember seeing that movie in the theaters when I was 16 and I wanted to be her so bad! I thought it was awesome how she became an honorary Predator. This was during my early fan fiction writing days so I wrote a few fan fics about her! And they will never see the light of day *laughs*
A: I’d have to say Selena from 28 Days Later. She’s SUCH a badass and such a good representation of women in horror, and I feel like she is never talked about. I’m looking forward to recording an episode of that movie in the future!
What are some of your comfort movies? Horror or not.
G: The Haunting (1963) is my “rainy summer day” movie. My non-horror comfort movies tend to be steeped in nostalgia so A Little Princess (1995), Matilda (1996) and The Secret Garden (1993) are some of my childhood faves.
A: I LOVE The VVitch and Midsommar, Arsenic and Old Lace is also a staple. When I’ve been watching a lot of horror or listening to too much true crime, I watch Pride & Prejudice (the one with Kiera Knightly) because the score is incredible and it’s full of rich golden hour light. And it’s grossly romantic. If I need to laugh, I watch Goon. It’s so, so good!
Heck yes! I love Goon. It never fails to get a laugh out of me.
On your show, you’ve discussed some of the classic Universal Monsters such as Dracula, Creature From The Black Lagoon, and Frankenstein and The Bride Of Frankenstein. With the success of Leigh Whannell’s The Invisible Man, more modern takes are going to be on the way. How would you like to see your favorite monster adapted to modern times?
G: We talk about [in our Bride of Frankenstein episode] how the Bride is probably queer, which is why she doesn’t love the monster. I’d love for this to be blatantly shown on screen! And I feel like the Creature (my favorite movie monster) was already remade by Del Toro when he did The Shape of Water. I love it and I kinda hope it’s the only Creature remake in my lifetime.
A: Oh, that’s a good question! I would love to see another remake or at least reimagining of the OG Cat People.
If you had music playing in the background of your life, which existing movie score would you choose or which composer would you choose to create your soundtrack?
G: I LOVE the soundtrack from Prevenge (2016) by ToyDrum. I feel like it perfectly fits my life. I also really like the music from Near Dark (1987) by Tangerine Dream. So, some gentle melodic synth for my soundtrack.
A: Mark Korven- I would want him to write a score for my life. He’s responsible for the music in The VVitch and The Lighthouse. Although, I feel like my life isn’t really dreadful enough for that, so I don’t really know if that would work!
Do you have any horror collectibles or memorabilia? If you had to choose, which would be your favorite?
G: I have this large, vintage Creature from the Black Lagoon toy and it’s so funny. It’s battery operated so when you push a button it roars and moves its arms! I also have an autographed Scream poster by Skeet Ulrich and autographed briefs by Barry Bostwick.
A: I have a really great Wolf Man mask that I painted when Gracie and I did a promo photo shoot together for the show, and she’s got a Creature From The Black Lagoon mask. It’s so sentimental to me. I’ve also got a photo signed by Sid Haig that I got from Scare-A-Con when Gracie and I went together. I was so excited to meet him and Gracie and I had SUCH a good time!
Lastly, are there any writers/directors/podcasters/other content creators you’d like to give shout-outs to to keep the positivity train going?
G: YOU! It’s been so cool getting to know you, Gizmo! Also Spinsters of Horror is such a great podcast! I also want to shout out Carolyn from Velvet Hand Designs!
A: Black Men Can’t Jump [In Hollywood] reviews films with leading actors of color and analyzes them in the context of race and Hollywood’s diversity issues. Those guys are doing an AMAZING job. @brettmanningart on Instagram has lots of cool witchy stuff to check out, along with my girl Maggie Morse and her stuff, Unremorseful Art!
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